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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:46 am 
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Greetings all,

I attach a copy of an email which I received this morning from PDVUG, PLEASE make sure that you all record an objection as soon as possible, thank you.



"The email below is from the Peak District National Park, which is seeking a permanent TRO on Chapel Gate and inviting objections. Chapel Gate is currently the best driveable route in the Peak District. We need to muster as many objections as possible. On previous consultations for the Roych and Long Causeway we managed over 4000 objections and that swamped the National Park, slowing the process almost to a standstill.

We are aiming to have over 6000 objections for Chapel Gate. Please circulate and forward this to as many clubs, forums and users as possible all across the UK , with a request to ensure objections are submitted by email to chapelgate@peakdistrict.gov.uk or by post BEFORE the middle of June.

The link in the email will give all the information needed from the Peak Park ’s website. The objections do not need to be long or technical. Simply saying you object is sufficient but to help there are several points below, which you may wish to incorporate into any objection:

The Peak District National Park Authority (PDNPA) is acting in a discriminatory fashion by singling out recreational vehicle users in this way.

The PDNPA is openly prejudiced and biased against vehicle users, with Members of the Authority taking public positions and being members of pressure groups opposed to recreational drivers and riders.

The recommendations of the Local Access Forum (LAF), which is a legal body formed to advise the PDNPA on matters around Rights of Way was ignored in proposing this Permanent TRO. The LAF had recommended a limited TRO.

The Rights of Way Officers conducted a flawed survey as part of an unlawful Experimental TRO, yet they still used its biased and discriminatory findings to seek the approval of the PDNPA to proceed to a Permanent TRO.

Much of the Authority’s concern is for the ecology of the area, which is a Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI) but they will not concede that the area is also Open Access and therefore subject to walkers leaving the route to wander freely across the landscape.

The Authority claims to be concerned about other users being forced from the route by vehicles or the ‘expectation’ of meeting vehicles and so creating parallel tracks. However, they are not concerned when the same problem occurs elsewhere on bridleways. In this way the PDNPA operates double standards.

The PDNPA is utterly unconcerned that they are removing a legal right to use Chapel Gate for a small minority of users. The Authority is happy to suggest that vehicle users can use the surfaced road network as an alternative but refuses to suggest that walkers, cyclists and horse riders could use alternative footpaths and bridleways to avoid the Chapel Gate BOAT.

PLEASE object however briefly and please ensure that you submit the objection BEFORE 28 June. Your effort will count. Let’s swamp the process make the task impossible for the Peak Park to carry out.

Nigel Bennett
Peak and Derbyshire Vehicle User Group


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: chapelgate <chapelgate@peakdistrict.gov.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013, 14:46
Subject: Chapel Gate

Tel: 01629 816200
Fax: 01629 816310
E-mail: customer.service@peakdistrict.gov.uk
Web: www.peakdistrict.gov.uk
Minicom: 01629 816319
Aldern House . Baslow Road . Bakewell . Derbyshire . DE45 1AE




Your ref:
Our ref: A76221/SAS
Date: 15th May 2013


Chapel Gate – Notification under Regulation 5 of the National Park Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England) Regulations 2007

Following the May meeting of the Audit Resources and Performance Committee, the Authority is seeking views on the making of a permanent traffic regulation order (TRO) on the Chapel Gate route to restrict use by mechanically propelled vehicles at any time.

The notice of proposal is attached to this letter for information. The proposed order, a statement giving the reasons for the order and a map showing the extent of the proposed restrictions can be viewed from 16 May 2013 at www.peakdistrict.gov.uk/consultations and at Aldern House from 8.45am to 5pm Monday to Friday (closed Bank and Public Holidays).

If you wish to make any representations, please make these in writing (including the grounds on which they are made) by 28 June 2013 via the consultation webpage referred to above or to Rights of Way at the above address.

If you consider that your previous representation is still relevant and you do not wish to make a further response then please notify us that this is the case.

Before any decision is taken whether to proceed with the making of a traffic regulation order, the consultation responses will be considered by the Authority’s Audit Resource and Performance Committee. When the date of the Committee meeting is identified this will be shown on www.peakdistrict.gov.uk/troconsultations. When published, the report for consideration by the Committee will be available at www.peakdistrict.gov.uk/committees.

In addition, the Authority currently operates a procedure that allows individuals or organisations to address members at meetings of the committee. Details of this procedure can be viewed at www.peakdistrict.gov.uk/looking-after/npa/decisions.

Yours sincerely

Sue Smith
Rights of Way Officer

chapelgate

Peak District National Park Authority

chapelgate@peakdistrict.gov.uk

Peak District National Park Authority, Aldern House, Baslow Road, Bakewell, DE45 1AE t:01629 816200 f:01629 816310 www.peakdistrict.gov.uk Twitter: @peakdistrict
The Peak District: where beauty, vitality and discovery meet at the heart of the nation."


Thanks for reading and actioning. Looking forward to meeting you early bright eyed and bushy tailed at Bakewell next Friday, 24th May 2013.

Hugh.

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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:30 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
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Read carefully - they are up to tricks.

States that if you consider previous objection is still relevant then you needn't make another objection.

YES you do!!

The previous process was illegal and as such the objections have no legal standing as a proper consultation wasn't performed. How can you consult on a TRO if you don't give the users the facts? - answer you can't, which was confirmed in High Court!

So yet again PDNPA are deviating from prescribed procedure and performing an illegal consultation.


Previous objections cannot be legally relevant. Use of salami tactics to mislead users into believing they are renders the current consultation unlawfull as well.

At least another 3000+ FRESH objections are needed that are relevant to the NEW process for a NEW tro that is being illegally imposed on a lane that is subject to NEW circumstances. This is being done for the same OLD reason that PDNPA aren't sufficiently competent to deal with their email problem from NIMBY's. PDNPA solution is to target what they see as the soft option - ie banning us.

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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:37 pm 
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I've sent an email and tagged on a suggestion that rather than force us off the routes we currently share, perhaps the park authority should open a few routes purely for us to use and thus save unnecessary confrontation and conflict.

Can't wait to hear back!

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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
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Ha ! Yeah I spotted the 'no need to object again' rouse... nice try, but I think we will all be taking the two minutes to object again....come on fellas, this needs us all ! Avit !...


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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:39 pm 
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In the local press already


http://www.bakewelltoday.co.uk/news/loc ... -1-5707573


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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:44 pm 
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Well done guys.
Is a meeting really likely?

How did you get those barriers there on a bike?

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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
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Well done to everyone who attended. Unfortunately my day off turned into a sick day!!


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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
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Thanks to everyone for today. It was worth while and points have been scored.....whether its enough remains to be seen.

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 Post subject: Re: Peak National Park Protest 24th May
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The BBC TV people were there today and it should go out on the evening news for East Midlands. Also being syndicated to Manchester and BBC Northwest showing at the weekend and next week.

Was doing a interview with BBC Radio Derbyshire but with all the plane problems might be shuffled onto Saturday. :) :)

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