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 Post subject: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:24 pm 
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I have just received notice of a speeding offence relating to my bike in Hertford, Hertfordshire. I have never been there. My registration number may have been cloned, but I now have to respond to the notification. Would the legal TRF department be able to help? Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Steve


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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:41 pm 
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There is no TRF legal department.

If you can tell me a bit more about the alleged offence, and particularly how it was supposedly recorded and by whom, I can offer you what advice I can. I'm not legally qualified to offer such advice, BTW, but I do know a little about road transport law through my day job.

If you don't want to broadcast it here, then email me; richardsimpson94(at)yahoo.co.uk


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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:27 pm 
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Cheers Richard, will do.

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:45 pm 
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I had the same.

Well I just phoned them and explained not me, I was not there at the time.

Be polite as they are only doing their job and have your number plate and details and lots of scumbags will be trying to get out of their speeding.

In the end it came down to colour, the bike speeding was red, mine was yellow as log book, but sent a recent photo show it was still yellow.

Call them and explain, that simple.

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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:46 pm 
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Or you could just ask them to send the speeding fine to Mario :lol: ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:47 pm 
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The only thing i have to offer is that on one occasion i was sent a speeding fine that was for my van in a county that i had not been in ,i was also abroad at the time . My registration was on a similar van that was flashed for speeding ,after a telephone conversation they asked me to send in a photo of my van with myself sat in as if driving ,i also sent in copies of my insurance ,log book (V5 )etc to assist with proof of my ownership of the van .I also supported this with evidence of the holiday i was on .
Presumably this was enough to prove i was the legitimate owner of the van ,not the Romany traveler who was photographed speeding in the van with my reg , and certainly not me .
I got a letter through saying that no further action was to be taken :)
Bit of a faff but it worked for me ,bearing in mind this was from being caught on a camera that took the photo from the front were faces were clearly visible as the driver . ( this is not legal advice but just my experience )
good luck , Julian East Yorks trf


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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:03 pm 
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Thanks guys. The office is shut over the weekend. I have sent an E-mail with an explanation and photos of my bike. I will follow it up on the telephone Monday. There are pics of my bikes on various sites where they could have had info to clone it. Be aware people.

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:58 pm 
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Same thing here as well for my van - just phoned them, explained where I lived and that I had not been there, I knew where I was that day, and they dropped it straight away.I think they said van colour which was different to mine!


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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:44 pm 
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Good(ish) news.
The good news is that I finally received confirmation that I will not be prosecuted for the alleged speeding offence. They said that after looking at the photographs that I sent them, that my bike has been cloned. It has taken two weeks of numerous phone calls and e-mails.

The bad news is that my registration number has now been 'tagged' on the national computer, and that I can expect to be stopped at any time and asked to prove ownership of my bike. This will last until they find the cloned vehicle, which may be never. My advice is to try and avoid this in the first place by not putting up pics/vids, of bikes showing their number plates.
Thanks for the advice in this thread guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Legal advice neede
PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:28 pm 
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Glad that you 'just about' sorted it Steve,

Goes to show, that you can't be too careful what pics you put up ...and how over-reliant road law enforcement has become on ANPR cameras etc.


All the best

Richard


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