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 Post subject: Re: Head injuries - closed face vs full face helmets
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:06 pm 
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All those squashed orange scenarios are missing one important point- our arms are not strapped to the handlebars.
Low speed off`s I would expect a certain degree of "break-falling".
And let`s talk about cyclists, horse-riders who have lost their face?
Yesterday riding from Keswick to Ambleside the cyclists were cruising more than 50mph downhill. They all had open face.
Everyone`s choice- Full face= less enjoyment of riding but safer. Open face= more freedom=more enjoyment but more risk of injury.


Riding with full face and safety specs can be unpleasant on some lanes due to branches, I can only imagine how much more unpleasant it would be with open face. And then there is the roadwork in the rain.......

Horse riders are 20x more likely to be killed or seriously injured than motorcyclists for every hour spent riding. Aside from the fact that they are trying to control a creature that is prone to flight and less intelligent than a dog, there is the issue that their kit choice is more influenced by tradition than common sense. This partly explains the casualty rate.

Cycling on the tarmac does tend to be with flimsy lids. Proper cycling (downhill MTB) is the domain of full face.


"Everyone's choice" - Agreed, which is why TRF should not have a policy advocating use of open face lids.

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 Post subject: Re: Head injuries - closed face vs full face helmets
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What about the poor Oranges harmed in these experiments :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Head injuries - closed face vs full face helmets
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I do use my trials helmet for horse trials as it is much more friendly but you are less likely to hit a tree then. It's also,cooler for all the stop-start riding.
I rode wearing it for about 10 minutes to a local one recently rather than trailer and I felt so exposed and ate more flies than I ever have.
I remember buying one of the first Centurion full face helmets back in the 70's but it was so floppy it would probably have broken my neck if I'd come off the bike.


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 Post subject: Re: Head injuries - closed face vs full face helmets
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I prefer to ride trails and trials with an open faced helmet, I know the risks, I accept the risks and anyway I love the taste of horse flies in-between hail storms, which hurt but only when you smile. For road riding I wear a full face helmet because I feel that the risks are higher but who knows as the risks change every minute.

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 Post subject: Re: Head injuries - closed face vs full face helmets
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Ps...there are some nice helmets that are full face but open up if needed...ie to present a full face to those you may wish to talk too without having to take the helmet off...

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I think I saw a recent advert in BIKE magazine for a flip adventure style helmet with visor?
Pretty sure it was a 'Caberg?'..

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Stanleyman wrote:
I think I saw a recent advert in BIKE magazine for a flip adventure style helmet with visor?
Pretty sure it was a 'Caberg?'..



It's a french firm, Caberg is french for Cabbage - which is what happens to bikers that crash wearing an openface lid.

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Stanleyman wrote:
I think I saw a recent advert in BIKE magazine for a flip adventure style helmet with visor?
Pretty sure it was a 'Caberg?'..



It's a french firm, Caberg is french for Cabbage - which is what happens to bikers that crash wearing an openface lid.




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Eating flies gives a useful protein boost. Swallows & House Martins do it & manage to get all the way to Africa on it!

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