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Oy tink de exec has got somthink planned

Any trf organized event is a good idea and any participating member would be easily identifiable if they were wearing something like a....now let me think...something bright,with a trf logo....ahhh yes, A TRF HI VIZ ARMBAND (available from all good trf shops for a small fee)

Any pressure to wear armbands would make me leave TRF, as would any pressure to wear open face lids.

As daft ideas go, armbands and open face are on par with the BMF lobbying to repeal helmet laws and the Flat Earth society.

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Everybody's entitled to at least one daft idea,and don't worry nobody will force you to wear anything you don't want to wear,keep smiling we're in this together

There is mention in Trail mag about a demo/ride out and it says details will be on this website. Where are they?

Thank You Jack for bringing all the facts that are available together into one article.

A demonstration is called for and it should be immediate to have its best effect.

The main demonstration should be at the crown court the trial was held at ( Winchester i believe) on a court day with the same judge in attendance. We should flood the are with so many bikes ( Road legal and peaceful) and make our presents known to the point that we affect traffic and flow of people around the court. And there should be as much press coverage as possible.

I also now think Maybe we should have a mass ride along the boats in question. If they are blocked un block them.I have suggested privately that we should respect all parties in this matter but clearly Wolfe ( by his silence) is not an innocent bystander in all this.............land Rover would have gone out of business along time ago if land rovers tipped over at 20mph.

This is not just a trail biker thing because its affects everyone who wants to use the green lanes. But it does seem that we are separated out as being particularly undesirable. ( unfortunately this does apply to some users of motorcycles on the lanes and private land.)

the wider public need to know who we are and what we are about. That we will self regulate ourselves and help keep the lanes for all users.
the landowners and people who are lucky enough to live nearby / on green lanes, need to know we will not allow them to intimidate us and deny us our Public right of way just because we choose to do it on a motorcycle.
The Judiciary Needs to know they have made a big mistake here and they are opening the flood gates to more instances where by landowners/ residents take the law into their own hands and someone gets hurt or killed again.

We need to make people think twice about putting a string, a log, a boulder, farm machinery, Glass, nails what ever in the hope of catching a biker. Its called MURDER and you go to prison for it.

This action should be about the principles involved i.e. the right to roam........in no way should we be seen to condone illegal riding.

If the local TRF or the executive need help then i am ready to help.

My suggested date is Tuesday 24th of April, the 80th anniversary of the Kinder Scout protests. i've booked the day off

Sounds like a plan

OK, I agree.

I also have the 24th April booked off work (in the hope that we'd be doing something in derbyshire).

I think a mass demo in Winchester is the best way to go. I don't know how many TRF (or non TRF) riders would pitch up on a week day but we can only try.

This will be a public demo so there's no harm talking about it in general terms on the public forum but perhaps the detail planning should be done on the closed forum or by Email.

One more thought, this needs to be the start of a wider campaign to demand equality of treatment for trial riders or it's a waste of time. If this incident had happened on a tarmac road I believe the outcome woud have been very different but why?

The fact is that as soon as a motorcyclist leaves the tarmac they're no longer considered a legitimate user. This has to change, we need to change it! This is really an access issue, it should go to the top. Richard Benyon MP is minister for Rural Affairs and he's alledged to be an active member of GLEAM.

Groups like GLEAM are part of the problem because they promote hatred and disrespect of legitimate recreational vehicle users.

We've suffered literally years of official discrimination (CRoW, NERC, Winchester, the predjudice re writing of MtBoB etc). It's time to demand the same respect and consideration that is automatically shown to walkers, horse riders and moutain bikers!

Regards

Richard

While "the norm" might be to name the demo ride after the victim rider, it might be more effective to name it the Timothy Wolfe ride. The victim was just another "hooligan dirt biker" but if the "respectable" Mr Wolfe's name is used more notice might be taken.