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 Post subject: Re: The TRF Forum
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:40 am 
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mario.costasa wrote:
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There were 12 pages on this started earlier this year. The Directors are clearly allowing the Forum to die.



Hi Peter

Thanks for this reminder

I looked again at my post of Nov 25th stating TRF's reasoning why the forum is important. This is still valid.

I have not come across a single director who is currently advocating letting the forum die.

I have full confidence that the right man is on the job and simply suggest you allow him some time.





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Good to hear that Mario,given that the Forum regeneration is in progress is it not possible to give a timetable even a loose one.

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 Post subject: Re: The TRF Forum
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Mi Mario

As the OP, I will take the liberty of butting in.

The lack of apparent enthusiasm shown from the directors for the forum on the forum is extremely noticeable and the renewal has been dragging on for ages and ages now.

The decline can't continue, hence my request for a date when we can expect our new whizz bang super duper forum to be unleashed on the excited membership.

Is the work being done by a volunteer or a paid contractor?
If a volunteer, then we are grateful for the time and effort put in but, as the forum is so important, should there not have been an investment in a specialist who can push the operation on quicker?
If that is the case, why has it taken so long.
This is not denigrating gregsta's work but keeping the professional approach we need to move forward.

I gather this and my 'Future of the TRF' questions are being discussed by the directors tomorrow, please come up with some positive answers :)

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 Post subject: Re: The TRF Forum
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Hi
Maybe one supplying the usernames of all members, so we can contact (PM) each other freely on the non-public section, as we are all in the same club and often need to communicate with other regional group members.

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 Post subject: Re: The TRF Forum
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For the record, seeing as my name has been dragged into this conversation, I have no responsibility or input on the Forum developments. My work is based on the TRF Website, Social Media, Brand, Shop and general marketing, all external communications.

Over the last year I have put forwards a number of proposals on how the internal communications of the TRF could progress and will be happy to contribute if/when required.

My understanding is that the Forum falls between the Directors responsible for Internal Communications and I.T. - I have had discussions with both and I can reassure you that the issues raised in this thread are an their radar. The options available all have pros and cons and whilst I have not been involved in the Director level conversations, I believe that a lot of the discussion is about rationalising potential benefits against risks and making sure that the next steps are right for the long term future of the TRF.

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Maybe one supplying the usernames of all members, so we can contact (PM) each other freely on the non-public section, as we are all in the same club and often need to communicate with other regional group members.

Kind regards
Ady



One of the major problems to resolve is the misperception that the members section is non-public.

The members section is readily available to the public and entirely unsuitable for sensitive debate.

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gregsta wrote:
For the record, seeing as my name has been dragged into this conversation, I have no responsibility or input on the Forum developments. My work is based on the TRF Website, Social Media, Brand, Shop and general marketing, all external communications.

Over the last year I have put forwards a number of proposals on how the internal communications of the TRF could progress and will be happy to contribute if/when required.

My understanding is that the Forum falls between the Directors responsible for Internal Communications and I.T. - I have had discussions with both and I can reassure you that the issues raised in this thread are an their radar. The options available all have pros and cons and whilst I have not been involved in the Director level conversations, I believe that a lot of the discussion is about rationalising potential benefits against risks and making sure that the next steps are right for the long term future of the TRF.

G


Apologies Greg - thought your remit spanned both parts.

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My apologies.
When I first started looking on the website for many years, I was unable to see the regional group sections, only the public forum. .. Once I joined, I was then able to see the group sections. I therefore presumed that they were the non public forums.
Most users in our group have had similar situations and we find they are resolved when National somehow switch on their access (possibly when subs are received)
When I look at the forums from any other computer than my own, I can only see the Public Forums. Only if I enter my password etc, then I can see the member sections.
I can only presume therefore that non-members are allowed to set up a username and password and look into the Members area.
I thought, all my posts posted on the members section were not viewable on the public forum.... Although i'm wondering if it shows on the "view active topics" anything that has currently been replied to - having done a quick check, it appears not to.
Again, i'm only trying to ask for clarification as secretary, i'm not complaining.
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ady400ktm wrote:
My apologies.
When I first started looking on the website for many years, I was unable to see the regional group sections, only the public forum. .. Once I joined, I was then able to see the group sections. I therefore presumed that they were the non public forums.
Most users in our group have had similar situations and we find they are resolved when National somehow switch on their access (possibly when subs are received)
When I look at the forums from any other computer than my own, I can only see the Public Forums. Only if I enter my password etc, then I can see the member sections.
I can only presume therefore that non-members are allowed to set up a username and password and look into the Members area.
I thought, all my posts posted on the members section were not viewable on the public forum.... Although i'm wondering if it shows on the "view active topics" anything that has currently been replied to - having done a quick check, it appears not to.
Again, i'm only trying to ask for clarification as secretary, i'm not complaining.
Kind regards
Ady


Ady,

Any member of the public can readily join TRF and access the members section. The content can then be used to harm the public interest.

The notion of a members section creates a false sense of security that sensitive material/topics can be subject of debate without it falling into the wrong hands.

The forum is entirely unsuitable for conducting TRF business that requires discretion.


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davidscott wrote:
Mi Mario

As the OP, I will take the liberty of butting in.

The lack of apparent enthusiasm shown from the directors for the forum on the forum is extremely noticeable and the renewal has been dragging on for ages and ages now.

The decline can't continue, hence my request for a date when we can expect our new whizz bang super duper forum to be unleashed on the excited membership.

Is the work being done by a volunteer or a paid contractor?
If a volunteer, then we are grateful for the time and effort put in but, as the forum is so important, should there not have been an investment in a specialist who can push the operation on quicker?
If that is the case, why has it taken so long.
This is not denigrating gregsta's work but keeping the professional approach we need to move forward.

I gather this and my 'Future of the TRF' questions are being discussed by the directors tomorrow, please come up with some positive answers :)



Hi David

Just to confirm the since late last year, the Forum is nothing to do with my voluntary role as a director

Mike Irving has been responsible for internal communications

Mike Tomlinson for IT

Both I believe have enjoyed unanimous support from the board for any actions they have proposed.

Speaking for TRF marketing we are equally keen to see progress in these areas

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Thanks Mario.
I also agree with JV re sensitive discussion but it's the definition of sensitive that starts getting blurred and seems to flow into seemingly innocuous forum topics.

So, how do we discuss these sensitive items? Is it actually physically possible as an infiltrator can come to any meeting as well.
We are spread over the whole country and, with the best will in the world, we ain't all going to turn up to a meeting.
It's not unreasonable to have members debate topics on the forum.

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